Teen Taboo: Underage Sex & Abortion

[writergirl]

misskelli said:

writergirl said:

"Pro-life people are 77% male and have no idea whats its actually like to have a child."

I forgot this part.

Being a man has nothing to do with it. It's values that people of older generations are still holding onto. The hope that our society will stop falling into a pit it will never get out of. I mean we already allow people to kill children what next??

That's just its an older generations belief. What worked for them isn't gonna work for us. And it is saying women's liberation is wrong, its taking away the right to make our own decisions. My life is not more important than yours or anyone elses but I'm not giving up my right to make a choice about my body and my life. Why is it so hard for people who are pro-life to understand that all we want is the right to make our own decisions and the right to have control of our bodies. Its not fair that the world seems to forget about the mother what about the mother the one who has to take care of that child. Once again its all about the unborn but once your born you couldn't give a *BANNED WORD*. You don't wanna know about the after.


You act like the child once the sperm meets the egg its a child. No it takes time and nobody actually knows when it becomes a child all it is a mass of cells. Being pro-choice means I support access to condoms and birth control its also means I support adoption. It also means I support the choices a woman makes in her sex life. Its all about choices its all about giving the rights to those who need it. You and I can argue until we are blue in the face its not gonna change that for 33 yrs women have been legally getting abortions. And alot of times its for health reasons like the have cancer or they have to chose between their own life and a child's.

If I had to make the decision between my life and a child I would do whatever I could to see if I could save both our lives but I will not give up the right to have an abortion if I have to. Pro-choice is about giving the women the right to make a decision that ONLY SHE CAN MAKE NOT YOU OR I. And an abortion should be used as a last resort only when no other way possible. Its unfair to make a someone who is not ready to make a child just have one and only one way out to be someone's mother. No matter what I'm pro-choice and I always will be because someone has to be the voice of those who sick of fighting over its my body than why can't I control what happens or does not happen.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWeXOjsv58c

33 Yrs And Counting KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL


And no my feminism beliefs have only part of what I feel about. Someone has to start caring about the mothers and stop focusing only on the unborn its not fair. The mother has just as much right to life as a 2 yr old and what you keep bring up is months I'm taking about days you don't honestly believe its a baby when the cells are dividing.

No one is taking anything away from you. Stop acting like these people are victims. They are the murderers the children are the victims. The mother does not have to take care of the baby, she can put it up for ADOPTION If you are mature enough to have sex then you are mature enough for the consequences. I'm not against condoms and birth control pills, what i am against is the killing of a child once it is formed. YOUR LIFE IS NO MORE VALUABLE THAN A CHILD THAT YOU HAVE CREATED. You should not discard someone because you can't see them. They are just as valuable.

[misskelli]

No one is disregarding anyone's right to anything. And they are victims must abortions are done because of rape, homelessness and incest. 1 in 3 women will experience some from of violence in their lifetime because they are a woman. Must abortions are because they're afraid and ashamed of the fact they were raped or can't take care of a child because they are homeless and have no way to take care of a child. A woman has the right to have sex with you ever see wants she should have the right to have a child when ever see wants. 73% of Americans are pro-choice and support abortion rights, we are not going anywhere. Keeping abortions safe and legal is the right to do.


I'm sick of agruing let's just agree to disagree.

[writergirl]

misskelli said:

No one is disregarding anyone's right to anything. And they are victims must abortions are done because of rape, homelessness and incest. 1 in 3 women will experience some from of violence in their lifetime because they are a woman. Must abortions are because they're afraid and ashamed of the fact they were raped or can't take care of a child because they are homeless and have no way to take care of a child. A woman has the right to have sex with you ever see wants she should have the right to have a child when ever see wants. 73% of Americans are pro-choice and support abortion rights, we are not going anywhere. Keeping abortions safe and legal is the right to do.


I'm sick of agruing let's just agree to disagree.

They can't be victims they are still alive. They aren't the ones who got chopped up into little pieces.

Yes rape is horrible, but killing someone because of it isn't right.

I don't care about the percentage of people who have completely disreguarded the sanctity of life. I wouldn't stick with the "go with the flow" attitude. If we did that nothing would have changed since 200 years ago, you would still be making busicuts in a dress. Just because someone says that it's good dosent' mean it is.

It's hard for me to really comprehend how people dont' see that cutting a child into small pieces and throwing it away is good. The mothers that do that are incredibly self centered. It's not all about you. When you get pregnant you should accept it and deal with it, whether it was something you wanted or not. And like i said a hundred times IF YOU DONT' WANT THE KID GIVE IT UP you not being able to take care of it should never be a reason you kill a child.

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My biggest issue with the pro-life debate isn't that you all say that it's killing little children, it's that you're so ready to let the goverment exercise control over a womans body. I don't nesecarially think an abortion is a good thing, but I think that in no case should anyone be told what to do with their body. Seeing as abortions are illegal after the first trimester the baby is still pretty much just a cell at 3 months no way could it live on it's own, and if i can't live on it's own it's part of the mothers body. I also don't like how it's all about telling a mother what's best for her baby. Sometimes, as awful as this sounds, it is the best choice for the child and the mother. What about rape? or what if it's one of those "I'll kill you if you don't" or what if the girl or woman (married or not) will die if she has the baby? Why should the goverment have to make that choice? Why can't we make the choice to decide what we want to do with our own children? You wouldn't want the government telling you how to raise your children, what to feed them, and what clothes to put on them would you? I know it isn't the same, but honestly I think that trying to take away the womans right to chose it's one of the most unthoughtful things I can think of.

[writergirl]

If people had good sense the government wouldn't have to regulate it, but since people can't make decent decisions the government should step in and protect the lives of those who can't fight. And please don't start of the suppressed women argument, no one is holding you down or controlling you. That's a tired and pointless argument. It's about the welfare of a child, when the own mother wants to kill the child then it has no defense.

As for if you can't raise them, again i repeat ADOPTION.

I has nothing to do with taking away a womans right, it has to do with saving the life of a child when it's in the womb of a killer.

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But the thing is, that by saving that life, it does take away a womans right. I understand that it's cruel, and that it isn't fair to start a life that hasn't begun, and I understand that there is always adoption and people should utalize that resource more.

It's just that, no matter what I think about it, or if I think abortion is good or not (which I don't think it's good). A woman deserves the choice. Everyone deserves choices whether it's killing an innocent fetus, or voting (although they aren't the same at all). I just don't think it's fair to take away choices from people.

You don't have to agree with abortion, that isn't the point, you can hate it as much as you want, but that doesn't take away the fact that everyone regardless of color, origin, sexual oriantation, creed, or gender deserves a choice. I don't think it's fair to just automatically decide that every baby should be born no matter what. What if the boyfriend is going to kill the mother and the baby?
What the mother and the baby will die in child birth?
What if she was raped and her womb is so messed up that the child could end up with severe bith defects or die anyway? What if if she has a kid now when she doesn't want one her body won't be able to take it and she'll never be able to have one?
I don't thing that everyone should go out and have abortions, I just think that we deserve the choice, and the ability to decide what is best for our children even if they're just a fetus.


Plus the world is insanely over populated and the more people the faster it gets destroyed. (That's just my libral hippie vermonter coming out you can ignore that if you want, seeing as it's kind of a rude comment).

[writergirl]

So this is just an issue of you don't want anyone telling you that you can't do something? Wow, should someone really have to tell you not to kill an innocent child? NO. But sadly people have no good sense so they have to be told. It's not a right, it's murder and NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MURDER AN INNOCENT CHILD.

I'm going to ignore the last paragraph because if that's justification for abortion it's sick.

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I'm going to sound sick again.


It's hardly a child when it's a cell in my body. And yes, that is the reason I'm pro-choice, that's the context of the side of the debate: FOR THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE. It has nothing to do with whether it's moral or not,

[writergirl]

There is no moral argument for the pro choice side. Last time I check murder wasn't exactly moral. Especially that of children. It's not your body you are killing, if it was it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's an innocent child's body who can't denfend itself against you.

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Oh, so it's not a big deal if I kill myself? but it's a problem if I kill something that can't eat on it's own, can breathe on it's on, can't do anything without my bodies support? It isn't fair to say that the life of something that is UNBORN is more important than my own life. No one life is more important than the other it's true, but I'm sorry, I'd rather be alive than have an unborn mass of cells kill me if it comes to that.

Sure, abortion isn't the greatest method of not being a mother, but honestly it has to be the hardest thing you could do.
Can you imagine having to give up your child? for adoption or abortion? It's not like an easy decision, and it's definitly not one you make unless you have a reason.